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Imagination makes the real world look so unkind¡K
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Yup, pretty true...
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Hmm, imagination is almost unlimited.
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Almost? I can't imagine where imagination should stop.
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Well, humans are limited, so their imagination are limited too. And because we're limited, we can't imagine the things beyond our limit¡K
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I respectfully disagree, the sky's the limit. Or, should I say the universe is the limit. The only limits we have are those that we impose upon ourselves.
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The universe is the limit, therefore humans are limited.
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Aren't we limited within the universe? If we pass the universe we'll be unlimited, but unfortunately we had not...Sorry, but I still think that humans are limited.
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Whatever, but imagination is unlimited, or limitless.
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Hmm, I don't know. From my point of view, if humans are limited, how can their imagination be unlimited?
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If you go beyond the universe, the limit will be whatever is outside of that.
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Yes, so I guess there's a limit to everything?
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I still contend that imagination is limitless. I imagine that a rocket ship goes into space, races past all of the planets (gives Pluto a salute) soars past the Sun (my rocket ship is super-heat proof). It then winds around meteor showers, and other as yet undiscovered planets in an as yet undiscovered universe. My rocket ship is powered by an unlimited power source, deriving it's energy from minute particles of space dust. Until it comes upon a bright star (not unlike our Sun)...
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I imagine a world where hunger no longer exists, not in the sense that the food is split up between the masses. I mean there is enough for everybody to eat whatever they want... But that notion even I concede shows the limitations of humans, at least in the world we live in.
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Maybe, just maybe if we can imagine it...
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Didn't people think Columbus was crazy when he wanted to sail his ships across the ocean? He didn't fall of the Earth, that "edge of the table" as people thought was simply the horizon, that, no matter how close you get to it never seems to get any closer... Which to me, describes imagination perfectly.
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Yo Masta! I can't even imagine what inventions lie before us in the next 200 years.
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You are actually confined to your senses and the world, I don¡¦t think if you reflect upon your post, you¡¦ve quite reached the universe.
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Let's say we're limited. (Just
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And by the way, didn't those crazy scientists back in medieval time imagine about flying? Well that's a common imagination...but is that (or should that be) within our limit?
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If imagination is unlimited, who knows what's going to pop up in the next century. I'm getting scared now.
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Hmmm, what I am referring to is that as humans, we have definite physical limitations. But, as far as our minds, we are limitless. You make a good point about people who imagined one day we would be flying.
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Look at Leonardo DaVinci, people probably thought he was crazy, but now we look at him as a genius... a visionary!!
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If only people can remove the boundary so easily ;)
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A theory of my close friend is that people can't imagine what they have never seen, because those things will not exist in your mind if you had never seen them...Or you can just imagine the extension of what you've seen.
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Interesting.
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What about DaVinci and his flying machine? That concept was completely born out of his imagination. You know all of the pictures of dinosaurs in books? Dinosaurs didn't look like that... the drawings you see are how scientists imagine dinosaurs looked. They can determine height and stature from bones, but as far as how they looked? Noone really knows...
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On that subject (scientists imagining the looks of fossils) may I humbly offer this for your entertainment? Even when they realised exactly what it was in the 80s, they still had no idea what sort of animal it was. Opinion today veers towards an arthropod (like insects, crabs, spiders, etc); but no-one's certain.
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Dinosaurs have been misrepresented since the day they were named. You can still today find traces of the daft idea that the really big ones (like Brontosaurus) lived in water to buoy up their immense mass. In fact, the water pressure on their lungs would have made it impossible to inhale (in an experiment to investigate this, one scientist permanently damaged himself trying to breathe - through a tube to the surface - about six feet underwater).
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That flying machine was composed of various materials Da Vinci had seen. The dinosaurs were based off of the bones and common reptiles. The boundaries, as I said are our senses. We can¡¦t imagine what we haven¡¦t experienced, so yes, the mind can be added to that list.
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Everything we are imagining right now has a base of what we had seen. No, imagination is not unlimited. I still believe it.
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Philosophical viewpoint: When the world zigs, zag.
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Wherever there is a human being, there is an opportunity for kindness.
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